kidokaji
发表于 2023-11-21 23:56:40
不要在意不值得的人,关注作品就好了
notaninvader739
发表于 2023-12-1 00:26:42
(google translate) 我明白你的出發點,但這傢伙似乎並沒有真正試圖將田龜源對硬核怪癖的熱愛變成一個政治問題。 由於有強暴文化,他們似乎只是發現人類成為獸人的從屬(或更直白地說,性奴隸)的怪癖令人厭惡。 由於異性戀版本(無盡或其他)的怪癖很普遍,他們認為他們本質上是厭惡女性的,因為它將女性視為性奴隸。 然後他們將其擴展到同性戀版本,並指出這反過來又是自貶、恐同和“不是同性戀”,因為他們認為田龜源模仿了異性戀版本(這絕對是無知的說法)。 我希望我沒有誤解他的話。
我對此的兩點意見是,這不是一個政治問題,而更多的是關於強姦/非騙子類型中色情/色情/無盡的道德問題。 我相信他們批評這種類型是不可接受的,而不一定是製片人的意圖。 然而,帖子中使用的語言絕對是越界且過於激進。 但這確實提出了一個迫切的問題:宣傳描繪強姦幻想的色情片真的好嗎?因為它可能會增加觀眾犯下令人髮指的罪行的可能性,甚至會讓人們淡化或迷戀性侵犯。 我相信像田龜源這樣的藝術家能夠將幻想/扭結與現實分開,因此不同意評論者的觀點。
我為這次長篇大論道歉。 只是想分享我對此的看法。 :p
I understand where you're getting from but from but it doesn't really seem like the guy is trying to turn Tagame's affinity for hardcore kinks into a political issue. It seems like they just find the kink involving humans being the subordinate (or to put it more bluntly, sex slaves) to orcs repulsive due to the rape culture present. Since the heterosexual versions (in hentai or whatever) of the kink is prevalent, they think that they are inherently misogynistic since it treats women as sex slaves. They then extended it to homosexual versions and states that it is in turn, self-debasing, homophobic and "not gay" as they think that Tagame modelled it after the heterosexual counterparts (which is definitely an ignorant take). I'm hoping that I didn't misconstrue his words.
My two cents on this is that this is not a political issue, but more of a problem on the ethicality of porn/smut/hentai within the rape/non-con genre. I believe they're criticizing the genre for being unacceptable, not necessarily the intentions of the producers. However, the language used in the post is definitely crossing the line and overly radical. It does raise a pressing question though: Is it really fine to promote porn depicting rape fantasies, when it can potentially increase the likelihood of the audience committing heinous crimes or even make people downplay or fetishize sexual assault. I have faith in people and artists like Tagame to be able to separate fantasy/kink from reality and would hence disagree with the commenter.
I apologize for this tirade. Just want to share my opinions on this. More fluent in English than in Chinese for writing. :p
ttldmm
发表于 2023-12-2 19:47:15
网上的键盘侠一抓一大把,都是这样的
阿卫
发表于 2023-12-30 00:43:56
林子大了什么鸟都有,希望老师不要受他们影响
口我一下可好
发表于 2023-12-30 00:45:06
人多了什么低能都有,顺心即可
1282853430
发表于 2023-12-30 01:17:46
田龟老师这么棒的漫画居然还能想到要鉴证,问题是如果不对这方面感兴趣,应该也很难接触这类型漫画吧?
a761458518
发表于 2023-12-30 01:34:38
不是很理解,在本子下发表高见是觉得自己超脱性欲思考哲学很优越吗。。。。。
ditto
发表于 2024-2-6 15:02:22
我感觉这种人哪里都有。。习以为常了
1047399939
发表于 2024-2-6 15:58:55
一般而言,在性幻想作品下试图作严肃的讨论会显得可笑,因为它仅仅是一种消遣。
如果要较真的话,田龟源五郎老师的作品确实充满着对传统意义上“具有男子气概者”的羞辱、施虐、控制。对于自我认知为上述的“具有男子气概者”,且并不从屈辱、受虐中获得快乐的读者而言,或许会在代入中感觉到被冒犯。
然而,田龟老师之所以创作这些性幻想,不仅是因为他本人对特定创作领域的偏好,更是为了满足特定群体的欲求。可说是一个群体欲望的外化。
与其特地到一个性幻想作品下批判对雄性的羞辱、施虐,或者从自我矮化中获得难以自拔的快感等等,倒不如去提出更有价值的问题,如何划清性幻想和现实的界限,如何在类似的实践活动中切实地保护自己和他人的身心健康。
Sam30
发表于 2024-2-7 16:48:02
有人就有江湖, 只是對不同言論的管控強烈與否而已:loveliness: